Warcom will no longer be maintaining a presence on Whirlpool.net.au

Posted by Paul Warren on September 3rd, 2009

Time to pull the plug..

In an effort to devote more time to our more loyal and valued customers, please be advised that effectively immediately all Warcom staff members; will no longer be answering  questions or comments pertaining to Warcom posted on the Whirlpool forums.

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We can be reached via phone on 1300 927 266 (Warcom) from 10:00am to 6:00pm daily. (wait times may vary subject to call loads)

And we can also reached via email on service@warcom.com.au

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Why have we made this choice?

Several years ago the Whirlpool forums were known as “The number one forum in Australia” where companies could communicate and interact with both with customers and IT professionals.

However, given the communities drastic decline in quality contributors, the abuse and the targeted slanderous comments, we have no choice but to remove our presence from whirlpool.

A vocal minority of Whirlpool members seem to believe it’s perfectly fine to jump up and down in order to get what they want by using the Whirlpool forums, and as the moderation and admin team condone this behavior we have no choice, but to no longer answer any Warcom related questions at all on the Whirlpool forums.

Therefore, moving forward — If you wish to resolve issues with Warcom,  we welcome you to please contact us via the previously mentioned means or contact Warcom management via feedback@warcom.com.au

We welcome comments on this article and look forward to continuing to serve our outstanding customer database of (50,000+) that we have built up over the last ten years of being in business.

Sincerely,
Paul Warren.

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  • heisdeadjim

    A little…. abrupt? Paul and the team are of course entitled to do entirely what they want. But it seems to me to be a sure fire way of shooting oneself in the foot.

    Why not just go quietly, if Whirlpool has annoyed you. Please don’t get me wrong, I maintain the highest respect for Paul and his team, but this blog can only do you further damage, rather than good.

  • David H

    I use to visit whirlpool pretty much every day religiously last year, but just got sick to death of all the bloody 15 year old kids talking shit and thinking they know it all.

    There’s to many whingers on the place, so it’s not surprising that the place is known as whingepool where I work (iiNet).

    Obviously there will be a few people that don’t agree with this stance Paul and the Warcom guys have taken, but you have my full support. I’ve been a customer of Warcom’s for 6 years now and will continue to purchase from you good bunch of blokes.

    Keep up the good jobs,

    Best Regards, Dave.

  • Adam Harris

    Whirlpool sucks these days.

    Full of bloody fruit cake whinging doll bludgers.

    Good move warcom.

  • Azkan

    Whirlpool has gone down the drain. I used to visit daily but got sick of all the whinge threads etc. Good move warcom, if only a few *ahem* other companies would do the same.

  • Andrew Dennis

    Good move guys!!!!

    I’m surprised you have held such restraint with dickheads like that Pete Y guy constantly crapping on at you all.

    It’s quite obviously the idiot is only interested in taking pot shots at you whenever he gets a chance or taking pot shots at the Draytek brand you guys sell.

    These keyboard warriors think they are such top shit.

    Best of luck with it all in the future, I will certainly still be buying from you and the same goes for the fellas I keep referring to you at work.

  • RIP Whirlpool

    Wise move Paul. The only number one spot Whirlpool holds these days, is the number one spot for whinging dole bludgers to waste away tax payer’s hard-earned money. As David commented above, Whirlpool is widely ridiculed in the real world, and there is absolutely nothing to gain by any company that commits any time to it at all.

  • Wise Move

    All I can say is wise move.. and a grand one at that.

    Whirlpool is certainly not what it used to be at all. Anyone who complains about your decision to remove yourself from Whingepool is no doubt one of the Whingers themselves – and gives you more reason to move forward without WP.

    Well done!

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    I’d like to make one point clear, rather than just letting people I respect (cafeman on whirlpool for one) making assumptions that are incorrect.

    We’ve seen a spike in customers joining whirlpool, flaming us (or others) and only then making contact with comments like “look what we’ve done, we’ve bad mouthed you, now you fix it in front of the public”..

    Given the fact these type of people’s sole purpose is to create a drama and to tarnish our rep, I 1.) have no interest in having publicly waged wars with people any more, and 2.) being held to ransom by customers, who think they can post whatever they want, stamp their feet and we’ll jump up and down in order to satisfy them.

    We are in business to provide great service and prices, to great customers (people). I didn’t start warcom 10 years ago, so I had to come to work every day, to serve people sadly lacking in personal skills.

    I started warcom so I could deal with my customers on a personal level, that we are known for. I started warcom so I could establish long standing relations and friendships (in some instances) with customers and service them, to the best of my ability.

    I have absolutely no doubt, there will be a back lash from this, namely from those who think “the customer is always right” and the “customers can do whatever they like” brigade. That’s fine.

    Whilst warcom remains a privately held company, I am going to stick to my guns, and aim all my efforts at our valued customers, who appreciate our personal service. The prices we offer and knowing that they can call me at any time, let me know if there is something wrong with their order and I’ll jump on it straight away and help them out..

    If you are going to be rude and aggressive to my team or you believe you can stamp your feet, you are sadly mistaken.

    Please take your business some place else. We’ve been here for 10+ years now. Our customer database is growing 10% monthly and I have no doubt, we’ll be around for another 10+ years, to continue to provide the personal service, we are known and respected for.

    Sincerely,
    Paul.

  • Tom Scott

    Very well said Paul.

    We spent roughly 200k last year with Warcom via the UNI I work at and will continue to do so. I also put through a few thousand myself and had fantastic service with every order.

  • Timmy2Toes

    Whirlpool has become a bunch of wingers. If you have a complaint about a company you do not go and air it in public without first contacting the company to resolve the issue. Most of the currently active members on whirlpool seem to be extremely immature (with a few exceptions).

    In my opinion, Paul has done the right thing. Getting support over at whirlpool was an added feature that has long been abused.

  • Azkan

    Hi Paul,

    I didn’t realise you were growing so fast! That is unbelievable growth but I can see why with your honest, friendly no crap service. Thanks again mate!

    Azkan.

  • Chad Leverington

    Sounds Great, now you can spend more time on what we all love. Warcom

  • Mark^Bastard

    Whirlpool is becoming a joke. There’s too many young kids that technically play by the rules ie they do all of their trolling inside the framework that Whirlpool specifies. No swearing, no personal attacks, but be an annoying irritating little shit all you want.

    I couldn’t imagine being in a position where it’s a part of your business. I don’t blame you at all

  • Scorpio65

    Paul

    I have to say I think it’s a retrograde step to withdraw from Whirlpool. You are letting the naysayers drive you out and that’s the very thing they want. You have always, it seems to me, gone out of your way to help people (many times with great effect). Unfortunately there are those who exist that think the world revolves around them and that you exist to service them solely. Whatever you do, they will find something to complain about – even if you should fix their problem at the first go it won’t be good enough (it shouldn’t have happened in the first place). if only everyone could be like them, perfect, there’d be no mistakes ever anywhere.

    I think you should reconsider this unilateral withdrawal unless, as I’m starting to consider, the benefit derived from WP is far outweighed by the hassles?

  • RIP Whirlpool

    Scorpio65, the hassles of participating in such a childish forum far outweigh the benefits for any company. There are simply too many whingers, cheats and hypocrites on a forum like Whirlpool, for any company to waste its resources on. Leave it for the bludgers, and the little businesses that thrive off them. Neither of them will ever amount to much.

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    There are plenty of benefits to contributing to whirlpool. I use to love contributing there. In all honesty, I still would like to be an active part of the community.

    But my main point, which I’d like to repeat is this:

    Whirlpool is not a support forum, for Warcom. We have no avenue of defending ourselves, we have no avenue of having defamative thread titles changed. We have no control over competitors and their ghost accounts sniping at us.

    We have countless methods for you to contact us so we can assist you. And if we have fucked up, I’ll be the first to rip shreds of the warcom staff member who is at fault. This after all, is my job, it’s yours.

    However the problem with this is, because we have a presence on whirlpool, certain ‘people’ think if they jump up and down enough, we will give them whatever they want.

    It’s basically like a small child, screaming and carrying on for their parent. If the kid screams and carry on enough, their parent will give them what they want.

    So in saying that, when I decide to have children, if my kids cry in order to get what they want, or yell or and I give in, then they know they can get away with it and they’ll keep doing it, until I take a stance, to stop them.

    There is a process for everything and buckling to demanding, abusive, or crying kids needs is never a good thing. I certainly wouldn’t let my kids do it, once again (when I have them!). So we’ll I’ll be damned if I let some clown on a forum do it.

  • Sub-5000 user ID WP Member

    I think Paul chose not to go quietly because he’s annoyed at how Whirlpool has degenerated. Without the WP+ Greasemonkey Script and my manually hiding squillions of users, I’d have given up too. I think Whirlpool has had it – Community doesn’t scale.

    Sincerely,
    Sub-5000 user ID Whirlpool member

  • Scorpio65

    Paul

    To take your child analogy to a conclusion – if they don’t stop whinging to get what they want are you going to abandon them?

    You leaving Whirpool isn’t going to stop people whinging if you do something wrong. Look at the “On the Internet” forum at all the eBay whiners. Do eBay have a presence? No. Do the whiners still whine? Yes…

    Maybe you should still contribute, just not as a representative of Warcom. Maybe you already do?

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    Hey mate,

    I kinda don’t have a choice to leave my children, heh..

    I can teach them how to be proper human beings. I can’t do that on whirlpool, and some people on there just to far gone to fix anyway. (tongue in cheek comment!)

    I do have a choice to avoid whirlpool though.

    eBay do actually resolve issues and try to resolve conflicts. So do all the other communities I am actively involved in.

    We sponsor Mactalk and OCAU and the admin and mod teams on these forums, are by far and away miles ahead of whirlpool.

    They’re very approachable, friendly and don’t even other community members, will put people in their place.

    So I will can now spend more of my time there assisting building up those communities and contributing to the best of my ability.

  • Your Name

    I’ve been a member of whirlpool for a bit over two years now, and I agree. It used to be a place where there was none of these trolling posts, these fanboys who just promote a product or company to the death. It’s still a goldmine of information but the amount of crap on there now is ridiculous.

  • Tiger

    I think that the decision to end the relationship with Whirlpool is both a Professional and business one, and as such should be respected by all.

    However, what you are trying to achieve by having a dig at both the Whirlpool Admin and it’s Moderation team, escapes me entirely.

  • heisdeadjim

    I am wondering why I’m the only WP member to respond here using their WP id…

    Is this some of what Paul is talking about? The petty purile WP complainants don’t seem to have the gumption to identify themselves here by their Wp username.

    If this is so, that’s sad, because it lends weight to what Paul is saying.

  • heisdeadjim

    Except the post above mine, my apologies

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    I removed two personal attacks on me by Pete Y Testing, heisdeadjim, but that’s the only other whirlpooler who has posted here from what I can see.

    I’m quite flattered that Pete would take the time to read my blog at 9:30 on a Thursday night and then spend his own time, to publicly announce it to the world on whirlpool….

    Does someone have an Axe to grind?

    If people can dislike someone that much, who they’ve never even met in person, then I’m incredibly humbled…. What a life you must have. :)

  • Scorpio65

    You’re not, heisdeadjim…

  • heisdeadjim

    I stand corrected, Scorpio. Paul – you and I have spoken via private message before. I fail to understand the anger, that’s all?? Just ignore it? Part of the WP rules and regs state somewhere that WP isn’t anyone’s support channel anyway.

    It just seems to me this cause of action gives the trolls succor.

  • ferzal

    I think it’s a bad move.

    The posts will still go on and without you and your staff there to defend you, you will have to rely on Warcom “fans” to do so and since they’re not armed with inside info they’ll be written off as fanbois (or whatever). And you will lose customers, reputation and potential buyers. It’s as simple as that.

    I’ve supported your company in the past but it’s currently on my “do not buy from” list for one reason only and I’m hoping that will change in the future (a technical issue with stock representation on the site that doesn’t suit my needs).

    The customer service was good. Paul’s posts on Whirlpool were always good and you’ve defended yourself reasonably well and easily there. I want Warcom to become bigger and better and make those technical changes to make it to my “approved” buyers list because I like the personal touch. I don’t think chucking it in at Whirlpool will help you get there.

  • wiskas

    Paul, it is sad that you feel you have to do this. Despite the trolls and PITAs that we live with, from time to time, on WP, I feel it is still an informative and useful forum – especially compared to other forums.

    Like many others, I am sure, I enjoyed many of your posts on WP and will miss your input to the various threads I visit.

    Perhaps one day you’ll have a change of heart?

    /wiskas

  • tajhay

    the mods screwed whirlpool up with their overzealous power hungry modding. RIP whirlpool.

  • WP ‘What’s UP’

    I am sorry to see you & the team go Paul. I have been on both sides of the coin.

    As a customer after you have exhausted all other avenues – then yes the Internet (& therefore WP) is a very powerful medium to get your point across. Hence I registered TPGSUCKS.COM posted on WP & bingo all of a sudden my issues were fixed.

    As an experienced, (over 20 years), & highly qualified IT Consultant with vendor certifications & tertiary qualifications I have found, (like others have commented), that WP is now NOT the place for intelligent IT discussion.

    In fact WP is in danger of dying if it continues to be over-run with kiddies, trolls, scammers/spammers & baiters.

    All the best

  • ..

    whirlpool sux… well done…

  • http://www.castlemainebuslines.com.au Jabiru658

    I haven’t bought huge amounts of stuff from Warcom but I’ve used them on and off over the last few years (and I was pleased to see they’ve become a MacTalk sponser) but I’m an occasional customer and I’ve never had reason to complain about their service.

    And my whirlpool ID number is 34100 (for those wondering why whirlpool users aren’t posting) so I’ve been on Whirlpool for a fair while now, so I guess I’m in as good a position as most people to comment about whirlpool.

    IMO the signal to noise ratio has been getting worse for years and it seems like these days the mods are less and less likely to do anything about posts causing the noise.

    And some of those teenage fanbois attack in groups!

    It’s simply not enough to be right on whirlpool anymore (and from what I’ve read most times warcom were in the right), instead you have to have the biggest fanbois group supporting you to drown them out in numbers.

    That isn’t my idea of how a well run forum works.

    So yeah, stick to your guns Paul :)

  • VenGanZa

    Pity you guys pulled out, yes there are a few scumbags, they targetted Mega Buy with a load of rubbish too, but you take the good with the bad.

    It is unfortunate a bunch of people here feel they should moan about Whirlpool, I am guessing most of them have never used it for more than a day and a half.

    Warcom obviously feels Whirlpool plays an important role in the scheme of things, or it would not feel the need to make a big song and dance over its expeditious retreat from it.

    For those of you who like to make up your own minds, feel free to come to Whirlpool and join the community and decide for yourselves exactly who is a whinger and who is not.

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    VenGanZa – we’re removing our presence from whirlpool, because our time can be better spent, working with other customers and working on other business opportunities.

    Customers complaining, is a fact of life, I accept that.

    But when customers start to realise that simply by starting a thread with a title like “XYZ Sucks” and ‘XYZ’ has to come running into the forum, it’s not time well spent and more often or not, this customer won’t change their view of the company anyway.

    We’ve had a few instances over the years and more so recently where despite everything we’ve done, customers are still not happy. Once again – there’s always going to be someone not happy….

    But at least this way, people will know that flame bating us on uncontrolled forums won’t resolve the situation any quicker, than it would if the used all the correct support channels available to them.

    Cheers,
    Paul

    nb: Please excuse my poor spelling, it’s been beer o’clock since 4pm this arvo!

  • VenGanZa

    Oh don’t get me wrong Paul, I agree totally that when a few idiots purposefully target a company, or the odd person with unreasonable expectations creates a thread and attracts the nutjobs it requires lots of time to remedy that could be better spent addressing other aspects of the business. If I was running an online company, I would not spend too much time on public fora either.

    I do wish you guys had not made a big drama out of it, you are giving the impression there is something wrong with Whirlpool, which I am sure is not the case since your reasons for discontinuing your presence are based on sound reasons.

    I imagine we will still see you posting, and indeed I am sure Warcom customers will still seek you out via whims.

    Whirlpool is a large community, there is still a solid body of IT professionals and industry players active and contributing. However it is a microcosm of the wider community, and a very broad church indeed, so naturally it has users of every type imaginable, which sadly includes the odd troll or two.

    Part of the success of Whirlpool is it’s open nature, with transparent, fair and reasonable moderation. The benefits for companies like yours you know well mate, sadly there are downsides too. It is unfortunate the yahoos have spoilt things for your time management side of things, WP is poorer for not having your company visible.

    I hope to catch you around the threads, and who knows, over time Warcom may slowly begin to interact with its customers on WP whilst staying under the rader of the lunatic squads that seem to target companies. As I said previously MegaBuy was the victim of a few of these recently, they are a small group, maybe half a dozen, but they fake usernames and work as a cohort, pretending to be customers and raising merry hell.

    Every company has disgruntled customers, normally this is a one-on-one affair, WP as you know can be hectic if you get caught in the crossfire when someone voices issues in public, hopefully you guys will still be seen around the threads, I know a lot of your customers will miss you guys.

    VenGanZa

  • Ozherbie

    I’ll miss you and your team on Whirlpool Paul. I think it’s the wrong decision and that in the end it’ll bite you in the butt. That’s your choice though.

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    Thanks for taking the time to participate in this discussion VenGanZa and everyone else, I do appreciate it.

    I’ve actually disabled whims on whirlpool, so customers will need to pick up the phone or email me, if they wish to contact me. I’m here from 10/6 daily, and pretty approachable as I hope you can all see!

    The move to leave Whirlpool was discussed in great depth before the decision was made, however there has been one detail which I have left out until now..

    One of my team actually has Asperger syndrome. Now, whilst this person handles it incredibly well, I don’t expect him to cop abuse (and I do mean abuse) screaming, swearing, rudeness, from anyone. He’s here to help people, not deal with people with people, quite obvious suffering personality issues.

    Whilst I would rather not point the finger, 100% of these people were coming from Whirlpool. And it was rising, daily.

    This was also affecting several of the other guys in the team, who will also rename nameless. Staff moral was dropping, from Whirlpool – this is never a good thing.

    My team come work, to have fun, to help customers, to solve customers problems, who are willing to be helped. Not to be sworn at, threatened, and abused.

    I’ve kinda had enough of it too. :)

    - Paul

    nb: I know CS people need to be thick skinned, but there is a point where you can only be so ‘thick skinned’.

  • Don’t blame You

    Once upon a time Whirlpool was indeed a great forum where you could go and get genuine help from knowledgeable users and positively interact with representatives.

    Now it’s filled with a lot of abusive blow hards where the only opinion that counts is their own. This blow hard culture has ruined Whirlpool for genuine users.

    It’s a wise decision that Warcom has made.

    To the blow hard WP’ers reading this, on behalf of all the genuine users, I’d like to say ‘thanks a lot’. I hope you feel proud.

    Once you’ve finished huffing and puffing and expressing your ‘opinions’, take a moment to think about this –

    “The rest of us don’t care what you think”

  • Anonymous Mod..

    Quote: ‘Whirlpool fails because we’re not so easily pliable with money. :-( – Simon Wright’

    That is one of the most self humiliating quotes I have ever read… That guy would sell out in a minute if anyone would ever consider actually buying Whirlpool. Apart from actually building whirlpool, what has this guy ever done? He sits on his Benevolent Dictator thrown, where his army of 15 year old olds brown nose him. He has done absolutely nothing for the broadband community in Australia. As opposed to what James Rolfe of OCAU and Anthony Agius of Mactalk of have done for the PC Hardware and Mac scene.

  • Ozherbie

    I’d say that Simon has done a hell of a lot for the Broadband community in Australia. Whirlpool, at one point in time, was the only place to go to if you needed help. At this point it’s gotten too big to be managable and is suffering because of that but it’ll eventually get back to being a decent place to hang out because this kind of thing tends to go in cycles.

  • Dan

    I for one, fully understand Warcoms position.

    I once operated a large and successful online business, and for various reasons, closed it some time ago.

    We too, were subject to the torture that is Whirlpool.

    All one has to take a look at, is a simple google search for “warcom”, http://www.google.com.au/search?q=warcom, and you see 2 posts having a go at him on whirlpool.

    Now, from a business owners perspective. People, rarely, come to whirlpool to post because they think its their last resort after having exhausted all efforts with that particular business, they do it because they feel slighted, wronged by, and they want revenge. And at whirlpool, a customer can have it, and do serious damage to that business, for all to see.

    If I was a potential customer of Warcoms, and saw the posts about them at WP, well how does that look at all favourable on him? Do you think I have time to actually read everything good that he has contributed there?

    This is where balance needs to be established. Simon Wright prides himself on his community, but its out of control. He has been anything but magnanamous with this matter, when I requested a few things removed from posts clearly leaving my partner and family at risk (like personal details) I was laughed at.

    In the end I simply stopped responding to people at wp, just like Paul has done, and have never looked back.

    Paul, stick to your guns, concentrate on your business, and the customers that matter, and for those that may resort to whirlpool attacks, well now they will bother your competitors wont they :)

    Be at peace, your business needs to be enjoyable for you. Good luck.

  • Somedude

    Look, I do think that Whirlpool has mods that, well, should not be mods, because they decide what to do with threads because it does not fit their own belief.

    Whirlpool is, and will be quite a vast resource for the Australian Community.., But unfortunately, people seem to think that it is the one stop whine channel for their ISP, saving them 25c phone call to their ISP help line.

    ISP and Business Reps visit Whirlpool off their own back and outside of company time, and if warren believes it streamlines his business to no longer offer any support for products he sells, on Whirlpool, then that is up to him. Its *HIS* business, and simply stunning that 13 year old pre-pubescents can believe they have more business knowledge on what should or shouldnt be done.

    Sorry to see you drop Whirlpool warren, but do stay on personally.

  • http://www.castlemainebuslines.com.au Jabiru658

    Whilst I believe that Warcom made the correct choice I have to say that the comments made about Simon Wright from ‘Anonymous Mod’ are untrue, unjustified and almost certainly trolling.

    To claim Whirlpool has done nothing for broadband in Australia is nonsensical, it’s just that there seems to be groups of trolls haunting the forums more and more over the past few years.

    And to be fair it isn’t only whirlpool that’s suffering from this, I’ve seen Decryption (Anthony from MacTalk) complaining in threads about similar issues and I know Agg has as well.

    I don’t know what the ultimate solution to these trouble makers is but I do believe in the old adage “don’t feed the trolls” and this is in effect the path Warcom have taken.

  • http://www.warcom.com.au Paul Warren

    Simon, every comment is being approved manually to prevent people coming on here and blurting out insults at Whirlpool or Warcom.

    And every comment is being manually approved to prevent exactly the type of people on your community, running amok on our blog.

    nb: Jabiru – I agree, it’s trolling, hence I’m fine with it being removed. I’ve offered to remove the post.

  • Lucy Robinson

    I have been a customer with WarCom for a while now and have found the guys to be friendly and polite. I had one issue with a courier but it was out of WarComs hands.

    I can see why they have decided to leave this website though. Am I right in thinking Simon runs it???

    So far you have ranted about how much more money you are going to make than some random person on a blog and how morally superior you are and that’s only in 2 comments!!!

    Do you kiss yourself to sleep at night?

    You need to get out from behind your keyboard and stop acting like such a pretentious prick.

  • MigA

    wow all this over $20 !?!? geezeeee…
    the one things is that WP can be your best friend or worst enemy, it’s a double edged sward.. one of the best example of success is internode and simon hacket, though he has hordes of fanbious ready to take up his defense…

  • Michael Jones

    It has become clear that whirlpool is condoning the clear marketing of products from clever people who clearly are working for certain suppliers – the recent direct and clearly biased recomendations of imported notebooks will constant recomendations of importing agents – Occasional posts are fine but im talking about Whirlpool accepting tens of recomendations PER DAY ! there has even been a WIKI setup by some of these marketers that again give credibility to importing notebooks with importer recomendations – the few local notebook recomendations are just there to push the imports – this is CLEARLY marketing with clear mentioning of the pitfalls and simple zero comeback to those recomending the imports. It is clear that these recomendations are part of the posters jobs as these posts occur every hour of the day.
    Whirlpool was meant to be unbiased – not any more. Thats it for me.

  • MigA

    oh btw, everyone bagging out WP as becoming a bad place, im not sure what your all on about, iv been on WP for over 10 years, and back then when there was the anonymous posting feature, things were so so so so much worse! in general alot of people have left IT and thus WP and the crowd wp now draws is the same smart arse highschool or uni students who leave their social skills at the proverbial door, if they really did have any. Having said that, you need a thik skin in this world now days and there are some really good people there too still though the ration is shrinking. I think its unfair attacking simon, coz, really im sure he dosnt like the fact so many twits use it to rant and do all that stuff, but whats he to do, that’s the beauty of the net, everyone has a voice no matter how stupid they are…

    paul at the very least maintain an account on a personal , rather then professional level……… sad 2 c u go, but that’s life

  • http://whirlpool.net.au Simon Wright

    Mmm, more insults being blurted out and approved by you. A case of “do as I say, not as I do”, hey Paul?

    Lucy, you’re welcome to think little of me and shop at Warcom. They’re both fabulous choices which I’m sure you’ll be immensely proud of for years to come.

  • ferzal

    Paul,

    You approved Lucy’s comments? This is exactly the sort of thing you’re talking about leading you to leave WP.

    Look, I’ve got to admit I rarely participate in technical areas any more because they’re full of numbnuts and tools but I still read up for info in areas, new tech etc that I’m unfamiliar with and I find WP to be without peer in educating myself in many technical areas (especially new hardware technology).

    You need a certain skillset to filter out the numbnut posts to get to the truth but it can be done.

    WP contains both the best and the worst. It’s not fun to participate in most of these areas any more but they’re still used as info sources by hundreds of thousands of people.

    I can read between the lines as can anyone with a brain but you need a voice there to provide that info.

    I understand the frustration. Obviously it’s reached critical because I’ve never seen you spit the dummy like this. Very un-Paulish. ;)

    Better to have never started on WP than start, then leave. It’s kind of a sticky situation.

    Best of luck though.